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GREY Journal
5 days ago
Marketing

Is X's Strategy to Replace Conventional Social and Financial Apps Feasible Under Elon Musk's Leadership? - GREY Journal

Elon Musk rebrands Twitter as X to create an 'everything app' with a focus on video content. [ more ]
Artificial intelligence
TESLARATI
4 days ago
Artificial intelligence

Elon Musk talks space, AI and more in Milken Institute interview

Elon Musk emphasizes the importance of becoming a spacefaring civilization to inspire humanity. [ more ]
TechCrunch
1 week ago
Artificial intelligence

X launches Stories on X delivering news summarized by Grok AI | TechCrunch

X, formerly Twitter, is incorporating Elon Musk's Grok AI chatbot to summarize personalized trending stories for Premium subscribers in the Explore section. [ more ]
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layoffs
The Verge
5 days ago
Tech industry

More Tesla employees laid off as bloodbath enters its fourth week

Tesla is undergoing a series of layoffs across different departments.
Elon Musk aims to reorganize the company every five years for efficiency and performance improvement.
Tesla faces financial challenges due to decreased sales and profits, increased competition, and shifting focus to autonomous vehicles. [ more ]
Futurism
1 week ago
Tech industry

Tesla Fans Furious as Company Fires Supercharger Team, Cancels Supercharger Leases

Tesla CEO Elon Musk let go of the team handling Supercharger network, upsetting Tesla owners relying on the reliable fast-charging network. [ more ]
Futurism
1 week ago
Tech industry

Elon Musk Slams Tesla With Fresh Round of Layoffs

Tesla CEO Elon Musk continues layoffs, targeting executives, amidst company struggles and workforce reduction. [ more ]
InsideEVs
1 week ago
Tech industry

'Hardcore' New Tesla Layoffs Leave You Wondering What Tesla Even Is Anymore

Tesla surprised the industry by letting go of its Supercharging team, including 500 employees, despite opening its charging network to other automakers. [ more ]
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full-self-driving
TESLARATI
2 days ago
Cars

Tesla FSD (Supervised) V12.4 expected to start rollout next week

Tesla's Full Self-Driving system V12.4 update is expected to bring significant improvements, including retrained models for better comfort. [ more ]
TESLARATI
2 days ago
Cars

Elon Musk shares Tesla Cybertruck FSD release update

Tesla Cybertruck owners will have to wait longer for Full Self Driving functions compared to other Tesla models. [ more ]
TESLARATI
2 days ago
Cars

Elon Musk hints Tesla is adjusting big complaint with next FSD (Supervised) release

Elon Musk hinted at removing the steering wheel nag feature with Tesla's upcoming FSD version release. [ more ]
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supercharger-network
Futurism
1 day ago
Cars

After Firing Entire Supercharger Team, Elon Musk Reverses Course and Says He'll Be Spending $500 Million on Growing the Charging Network

Tesla's CEO Elon Musk reversed course on scaling down Supercharger network efforts, committing to over half a billion for growth after facing backlash. [ more ]
TechCrunch
3 hours ago
Tech industry

Tesla's profitable Supercharger network is in limbo after Musk axed the entire team | TechCrunch

Tesla abruptly shut down the profitable Supercharger team, causing confusion and concern among industry watchers, shareholders, and former employees. [ more ]
Fast Company
1 week ago
Tech industry

This Tesla team quietly built one of its superpowers. Why did Elon pull the plug on it?

Tesla's Supercharger network became the industry standard, unlocking federal funds and potential utility-like revenue.
Despite its success, Tesla's charging team, led by Rebecca Tinucci, was abruptly fired in a seemingly erratic move by Elon Musk. [ more ]
Boston.com
1 week ago
Cars

Elimination of Tesla's charging department raises worries as EVs from other automakers join network

Tesla laying off Supercharger team raises concerns about opening network to other automakers. [ more ]
Futurism
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla Sucked Up Federal Funding for Supercharger Network Before Firing Whole Department

Tesla's abrupt decision to fire its Supercharger team despite substantial federal grants raises questions about grant utilization and industry impact. [ more ]
Inverse
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla's Supercharger Woes Are a Bad Omen for All EV Owners

Tesla's sudden firing of its Supercharger team may hinder its network expansion, impacting EV owners and potentially benefiting other charging providers. [ more ]
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competition
Futurism
1 week ago
Tech industry

Economist Slams Elon Musk for Making Tesla a "Tech-Bubble" Meme Stock

Tesla's high valuation is concerning despite quarterly losses. [ more ]
ReadWrite
2 weeks ago
Artificial intelligence

Elon Musk's xAI closes in on $6 billion as AI race heats up

Elon Musk's xAI secures significant venture capital funding from Sequoia Capital, highlighting its potential value and competition in the AI industry. [ more ]
Benzinga
2 weeks ago
Marketing

Tesla Layoffs Hit Marketing Team, Retracts Advertising Push - Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA)

Tesla eliminated a recent marketing team and shifted away from traditional advertising approved by Elon Musk, amid company layoffs. [ more ]
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china
Fast Company
1 week ago
Cars

U.S. regulator says self-driving vehicles not ready for prime time as Tesla inks China deal

Elon Musk secured a significant deal for Full Self-Driving mode in China, potentially boosting Tesla's market performance and shareholder approval. [ more ]
Theregister
1 week ago
Cars

Elon Musk and Chinese Premier talk EV tech in Beijing

Elon Musk met with Chinese Premier Li Qiang in Beijing to discuss Tesla's success in China and the potential for Full Self-Driving approval. [ more ]
New York Post
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla shares spike 12% as Elon Musk wins approval for full self-driving rollout in China

Tesla shares surged over 12% after Musk secures Full Self Driving approval in China, relying on Baidu's mapping license for navigation, amidst fierce competition. [ more ]
www.nytimes.com
1 week ago
Cars

Who Gains From Elon Musk's Visit to China?

Elon Musk's meeting with China's No. 2 official in Beijing potentially cleared obstacles for Tesla's autonomous driving system in China. [ more ]
Fast Company
1 week ago
Cars

4 reasons why Tesla's Full Self-Driving rollout in China matters

Tesla CEO Elon Musk visited Beijing to discuss FSD software and data transfer permissions, receiving a key endorsement for Model 3 and Y compliance in China. [ more ]
www.theguardian.com
1 week ago
Cars

Watershed moment' for Tesla as Elon Musk's visit to China reaps quick reward

Tesla secures deal with Baidu for mapping data, advancing driver assistance in China. [ more ]
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Benzinga
2 weeks ago
Marketing

Elon Musk Says Ad Revenue Sharing Will Be 'Paused' For Some X Creators Over Pending Investigation Into 'Use Of Bots To Spam Likes, Replies'

Suspension of ad revenue sharing for certain creators on X due to bot spamming. [ more ]
Adweek
2 weeks ago
Marketing

Under the Hood of Tesla's Fleeting Foray Into Ads

Tesla's marketing team didn't get to launch significant campaigns before being laid off. [ more ]
ReadWrite
2 weeks ago
Marketing

US inches closer to a TikTok ban

US House voted to potentially ban TikTok if Chinese ownership not sold within 270 days.
Senate to approve bill, Biden supports it.
Notable opposition to TikTok ban includes Trump's reversal and Elon Musk's stance. [ more ]
www.mediaite.com
3 weeks ago
Marketing

Elon Musk Comes Out Against Banning TikTok: Not What America Stands For'

Elon Musk opposes banning TikTok in the USA, citing freedom of speech and expression and contrasting with Congress's efforts. [ more ]
Social Media Today
3 weeks ago
Marketing

Elon Musk Hints at Bringing Back Vine

Vine 2.0 may not be as successful as anticipated, lacking monetization potential and TikTok's algorithm. [ more ]
layoffs
Electrek
2 weeks ago
Marketing

Tesla fired its entire new ad team in recent layoffs

Tesla has laid off its 'growth content' ad team to focus less on traditional advertising. [ more ]
www.nytimes.com
3 weeks ago
Cars

Tesla Will Lay Off More Than 10% of Workers

Tesla plans to lay off more than 10% of its workforce to cut costs amidst increasing competition and declining sales. [ more ]
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Artificial intelligence
Fortune
4 weeks ago
Artificial intelligence

Elon Musk wants to make Grok AI an option for X premium users to compose tweets

Elon Musk's xAI chatbot, Grok, is integrated into X for AI-powered features, replacing human curation teams but facing challenges in content accuracy. [ more ]
Entrepreneur
1 month ago
Artificial intelligence

Elon Musk: AI Could Outsmart Humanity By Next Year | Entrepreneur

AI technology advancing rapidly, potentially surpassing human intelligence soon.
Concerns raised by Elon Musk about potential risks associated with AI technology. [ more ]
Ars Technica
1 month ago
Artificial intelligence

Elon Musk: AI will be smarter than any human around the end of next year

AI superintelligence predicted by Elon Musk around end of next year.
AI technology advancing at a rapid pace, increasing in capability significantly every year. [ more ]
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TechCrunch
3 days ago
EU data protection

EU grills Elon Musk's X about content moderation and deepfake risks | TechCrunch

The European Union is intensifying its investigation of Elon Musk-owned social network X under the Digital Services Act, focusing on various content moderation and transparency concerns. [ more ]
The Verge
3 days ago
Cars

Tesla is being investigated for securities and wire fraud for self-driving claims

The Department of Justice is investigating Tesla for securities and wire fraud regarding its self-driving vehicle claims. [ more ]
Above the Law
3 days ago
Cars

Justice Department Investigating Tesla's Self-Driving Claims

The financial success of Tesla significantly contributes to Elon Musk's net worth despite ongoing legal challenges. [ more ]
Ars Technica
3 days ago
Cars

Tesla's self-driving claims subject to federal securities and wire fraud probe

Tesla is facing investigations by multiple authorities regarding securities fraud and misleading statements about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving features. [ more ]
TESLARATI
3 days ago
Cars

Tesla no longer needs LIDAR for ground truth data for FSD training: Musk

Tesla was the largest customer of Luminar's LIDAR products in Q1 2024, but Elon Musk hinted at decreased business in the future. [ more ]
TESLARATI
3 days ago
Cars

Lucid's Q1 results invoked quite a reaction from Elon Musk

Lucid Group reported a significant net loss in Q1, with Elon Musk criticizing them for losing money on every car they deliver. [ more ]
InsideEVs
5 days ago
Cars

Musk Again Claims Tesla Will 'Soon' Have Banish, Actual Smart Summon

Elon Musk's humor shifts from politically charged to Tesla-centric, teasing Autopark and Smart Summon returns. [ more ]
Theregister
4 days ago
Tech industry

Tesla lays off even more workers, including engineers, devs

Tesla has undergone multiple rounds of layoffs, which have affected a wide range of employees including engineers and developers. [ more ]
InsideEVs
5 days ago
Tech industry

'Detached From Reality': Welcome To The Tesla vs. $TSLA Showdown

Tesla's focus on AI and robotaxis is causing a divergence between its original mission and investor expectations. [ more ]
TESLARATI
5 days ago
Tech industry

Elon Musk wants this legendary investor to buy Tesla stock

Elon Musk urges Warren Buffett to buy Tesla stock as an 'obvious move'. [ more ]
Fast Company
4 days ago
Tech industry

Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk's tech bromance takes another weird turn

Jack Dorsey departed Bluesky and praised X, calling it 'freedom technology.' [ more ]
TESLARATI
5 days ago
Tech industry

Major Tesla shareholder criticizes Elon Musk amidst pay vote

Leo KoGuan criticizes Elon Musk's compensation package and selling of shares, calling it a 'robbery attempt.' [ more ]
Fast Company
5 days ago
Tech industry

Is giving Elon Musk a $56 billion compensation package-the most in history-the 'fair' thing to do?

Shareholders voting to reinstate a $56 billion compensation package for Elon Musk for past work done is causing debate and potential future implications. [ more ]
www.nytimes.com
3 days ago
New York City

The New Players in Brazilian Politics? Elon Musk and Republicans.

Elon Musk and the Republican Party are supporting Brazil's far-right former president, Jair Bolsonaro, amid increasing investigations by the Brazilian Supreme Court. [ more ]
PinkNews | Latest lesbian, gay, bi and trans news | LGBTQ+ news
5 days ago
LGBT

Elon Musk just asked JK Rowling to lighten up about trans folks - yes, really

Elon Musk asked JK Rowling to tweet less about trans people and share positive content instead. [ more ]
www.theguardian.com
5 days ago
Science

Boeing hopes to polish its reputation with Starliner crew capsule launch

Boeing aims to restore reputation with Starliner launch. [ more ]
Futurism
4 days ago
Science

Head of NASA Says He Trusts SpaceX Because Someone Other Than Elon Musk Is Running It

NASA places confidence in SpaceX due to Gwynne Shotwell's leadership, not Elon Musk's controversies. [ more ]
Entrepreneur
4 days ago
Cars

Elon Musk Advises Warren Buffett on His Next Investment Move | Entrepreneur

Elon Musk advises Warren Buffett to invest in Tesla [ more ]
Miami Herald
5 days ago
Miami

Trump makes pit stop at F1's Miami Grand Prix during weekend break in hush money case

Former President Donald Trump attended F1 Miami Grand Prix with elite personalities. McLaren welcomed him despite ongoing legal challenges, showcasing non-partisan respect for the office of the US President. [ more ]
TESLARATI
3 days ago
Cars

Sandy Munro sounds off on Tesla layoffs and Elon Musk hate

Sandy Munro defends Tesla's layoffs as necessary business decision, criticizes mainstream media, and praises Elon Musk. [ more ]
Futurism
5 days ago
Cars

Quaint Island Village Disgusted When Cybertruck Visits, Parks Blocking Entire Crosswalk, Then Gets Stuck on Beach

A Cybertruck caused chaos on Nantucket, reflecting poorly on the vehicle's image and its owners. [ more ]
Futurism
1 day ago
Cars

Protesters Break Fence, Swarm Tesla Gigafactory

Protests erupted at a German Tesla Gigafactory over expansion plans, highlighting tensions between environmental concerns and commercial success. [ more ]
Fast Company
22 hours ago
Cars

Tesla will spend $500 million on the Supercharger network after firing the team

Tesla plans to invest over $500 million in expanding its fast-charging network, despite recent layoffs. [ more ]
Futurism
1 day ago
Tech industry

Tesla Exec Quits, Trashes Company

Executives leaving Tesla express disillusionment with Elon Musk's leadership style and recent layoff decisions. [ more ]
InsideEVs
1 week ago
Cars

Elon Musk's Supercharger Chaos Could Slow The EV Transition. But It Doesn't Have To.

Tesla announced layoffs in its EV charging division, causing uncertainty in the industry. [ more ]
www.nytimes.com
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla Pullback Puts Onus on Others to Build Electric Vehicle Chargers

Elon Musk reversed plans to rapidly expand electric vehicle chargers, impacting industry growth and raising doubts on public charger availability. [ more ]
Creative Bloq
1 week ago
Graphic design

Come on Elon, your new X TV logo could have been great

Elon Musk unveils X TV, an all-in-one entertainment app for smart TVs, tied to the social media platform's expansion. [ more ]
Creative Bloq
2 weeks ago
Graphic design

The 6 worst Tesla Cybertruck design fails

Elon Musk, known for taking risks, may have pushed the boundaries too far with the Tesla Cybertruck design. [ more ]
Futurism
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla Tells Excited Young Interns That Their Internships Have Been Canceled

Internship offers being rescinded at Tesla right before the start signal potential internal issues. [ more ]
TESLARATI
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla Referral Program ends: Here's what you need to know

The Tesla Referral Program has ended, but users can still redeem existing points, and a new program will be launched in a few months. [ more ]
InsideEVs
1 week ago
Tech industry

Tesla Even Gives Up On Next-Gen Gigacasting: Report

Tesla is reportedly dropping its groundbreaking gigacasting technique for future vehicles, signaling a potential shift in manufacturing strategy. [ more ]
Entrepreneur
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla Laid Off Its 500-Person Supercharger Team Overnight | Entrepreneur

Elon Musk's decision to downsize Tesla's electric vehicle charging team has surprised other carmakers relying on Tesla's infrastructure for their own EV plans. [ more ]
Futurism
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla Pulling Out of Supercharger Leases After Firing Entire Supercharger Team

Tesla is pulling out of Supercharger locations, impacting customers and potential charging network expansion. [ more ]
TESLARATI
1 week ago
Cars

Elon Musk explains reasoning behind Tesla Supercharger team disband

Tesla plans to grow its Supercharger network at a slower pace, prioritizing 100% uptime and expansion of existing locations. [ more ]
New York Post
1 week ago
Cars

Elon Musk's move to disband Tesla EV charging team blindsides car industry: 'Sharp kick in the pants'

Tesla laid off employees running the EV charging business, impacting automakers. [ more ]
www.nytimes.com
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla Fires Many on Charger Team, Raising Doubts About Expansion

Elon Musk's Tesla layoffs raise concerns about the future of the U.S. charging network for electric vehicles. [ more ]
New York Post
1 week ago
Tech industry

Esther Crawford, ex-Elon Musk loyalist who slept on X office floor, hired by Mark Zuckerberg

Esther Crawford transitioned from working for Elon Musk at X to joining Mark Zuckerberg's Meta due to her interest in technology and human connection. [ more ]
TESLARATI
1 week ago
Cars

Elon Musk's latest bid to end SEC oversight on posts is denied

The U.S. Supreme Court upholds the oversight part of Elon Musk's SEC settlement, rejecting his appeal on free speech grounds. [ more ]
WIRED
1 week ago
Cars

Elon Musk Can't Solve Tesla's China Crisis With His Desperate Asia Visit

Elon Musk prioritized China over India, emphasizing the importance of the Chinese market for Tesla's future success. [ more ]
InsideEVs
1 week ago
Tech industry

Tesla Wants To Turn Cars Into 'Amazon Web Services' On Wheels. Here's How

Elon Musk envisions Tesla as more than a car company, aiming to create a distributed inference cloud computing network using idle compute power from Tesla cars. [ more ]
Fast Company
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla's CEO, Elon Musk, meets with Chinese officials amid trade tensions with the U.S.

China underlines desire for U.S.-China cooperation through Musk's visit. [ more ]
New York Post
1 week ago
Cars

Supreme Court turns away Elon Musk's appeal to toss SEC settlement over Tesla tweets

The US Supreme Court declined to hear Elon Musk's appeal regarding a securities fraud settlement, upholding restrictions on his public statements about Tesla. [ more ]
Ars Technica
1 week ago
Cars

Elon Musk loses at Supreme Court in case over "funding secured" tweets

The US Supreme Court rejected Elon Musk's appeal to terminate his SEC settlement, upholding the ruling against him. [ more ]
The Verge
1 week ago
Cars

Supreme Court rejects Elon Musk's efforts to get rid of his 'Twitter sitter'

US Supreme Court rejects Elon Musk's attempt to nullify terms requiring preapproval for Tesla-related tweets. [ more ]
TESLARATI
1 week ago
Cars

Tesla's Elon Musk meets with Beijing officials in quick China visit

Elon Musk surprised by visiting Beijing instead of Shanghai, meeting high-ranking officials, possibly discussing cooperation with China. [ more ]
www.aljazeera.com
1 week ago
Cars

Elon Musk meets China's No 2 official in Beijing

Tesla CEO Elon Musk met with Chinese Premier Li Qiang in an unannounced visit, amid Chinese carmakers showcasing rival electric vehicles at the Beijing Motor Show. [ more ]
TechCrunch
1 week ago
Tech industry

Tesla profits tumble, Fisker flatlines, and California cities battle for control of AVs | TechCrunch

Tesla faces pressure to generate new revenue streams by launching more affordable EVs to maintain profitability. [ more ]
www.mercurynews.com
1 week ago
Cars

They said it: Buyer's remorse?

Elon Musk's behavior could impact Tesla's performance. [ more ]
www.theguardian.com
1 week ago
Cars

Elon Musk makes unannounced visit to China

Elon Musk visits Beijing for discussions on Tesla's Full Self-Driving software rollout and data transfer overseas. [ more ]
LGBTQ Nation
1 week ago
Cars

LGBTQ+ fans outraged at Katy Perry for fangirling over Elon Musk

LGBTQ+ community outraged at Katy Perry for thanking Elon Musk, known for anti-LGBTQ+ stance, for Cybertruck. Backlash highlights clashes between popular figures and LGBTQ+ rights. [ more ]
Entrepreneur
2 weeks ago
Cars

Elon Musk Defines Ultra-Hard Work While Building a Company | Entrepreneur

Elon Musk defines ultra-hard work as working every waking hour and has put in 100-hour weeks during challenging times in his companies' history. [ more ]
Futurism
2 weeks ago
Venture

Venture Capital Firms Are Actually Considering Giving Elon Musk $6 Billion For xAI

Silicon Valley VC firm considering $6 billion investment in Elon Musk's xAI startup, Grok. [ more ]
www.mediaite.com
2 weeks ago
Media industry

Life After X: Journos Who Ditched Elon Musk's Twitter Speak Out

Twitter's importance in providing real-time information for journalists is diminishing due to high-profile exits like CNN's senior media reporter Oliver Darcy's departure amidst Elon Musk's influence. [ more ]
Futurism
2 weeks ago
Cars

Cybertruck Driver Goes Berserk With Road Rage After Mild Teasing

The Cybertruck driver's road rage incident reflects negative perceptions surrounding the vehicle and Elon Musk's behavior, impacting Tesla's reputation and desirability. [ more ]
TechCrunch
2 weeks ago
Tech industry

xAI, Elon Musk's OpenAI rival, is closing on $6B in funding and X, his social network, is already one of its shareholders | TechCrunch

Elon Musk's competitor xAI is raising $6 billion with changing deal terms and high investor demand. [ more ]
The Verge
2 weeks ago
Data science

Elon Musk wants to turn Tesla's fleet into AWS for AI - would it work?

Tesla considering utilizing idle vehicle compute power for distributed inference, akin to AWS for Tesla. [ more ]
www.npr.org
2 weeks ago
Cars

Tesla profits have plummeted. Elon Musk remains all-in on robotaxis

Tesla reassures investors about long-term growth despite recent setbacks and challenges. [ more ]
www.nytimes.com
3 weeks ago
Tech industry

Tesla's Board Backs a Pay Package for Elon Musk Struck Down by Judge

Tesla's board of directors approved a $47 billion compensation plan for Elon Musk, despite criticism and setbacks. [ more ]
Fast Company
3 weeks ago
Online Community Development

The only part of X that may be worth paying for is Community Notes cringe

X, formerly Twitter, under new ownership by Elon Musk, plans to charge new users for engagement, amidst declining user numbers and controversies. [ more ]
Kotaku
3 weeks ago
Video games

Elon Musk Gets Owned By Elden Ring Morse Code Master

Kotaku highlights players using innovative methods in challenging games like Elden Ring, showcasing unique accomplishments. Elon Musk's unexpected negative response to a player's Morse code play-through draws attention. [ more ]
Los Angeles Times
3 weeks ago
California

The EV market is in trouble: The latest sign is Tesla's layoffs

Tesla facing challenges with aging product line, sales decline, quality issues, and leadership turnover. [ more ]
Above the Law
3 weeks ago
Law

Quinn Emanuel Proposes Using Time Travel To Avoid Sanctions Motion

Elon Musk's legal team is trying to correct errors in a sanctions motion by proposing a time machine, showing negligence and unauthorized practice of law. [ more ]
Benzinga
1 month ago
Marketing

Elon Musk Mocks Facebook Again, Likens Its Links To 'AOL Email Address' As Zuckerberg's Meta Struggles With Ad Glitches - Meta Platforms (NASDAQ:META)

Elon Musk criticizes Meta's ad system likening it to using an AOL email address.
Numerous complaints from advertisers about glitches in Meta's ad system impacting performance and costs. [ more ]
PinkNews | Latest lesbian, gay, bi and trans news | LGBTQ+ news
1 month ago
SF LGBT

Elon Musk's X accused of boosting call for gay death penalty

Elon Musk's X/Twitter platform promoted a post advocating for the death penalty for gay people.
The post by user John White cited historical and biblical references to support his call for executing gay individuals. [ more ]
Mail Online
1 month ago
Artificial intelligence

Elon Musk warns AI will outsmart mankind by the end of next year

Elon Musk warns AI will surpass the best human by next year.
Musk predicts the number of sentient AIs will exceed humans in five years. [ more ]
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